This has allowed the world to have 7 billion people. Speaking with Carol's mom, Carol's little daughter-, Killed her. I do have a choice. I- horrified is- I was- I was pretty stunned. What you know, you know.". Uh, and he finds her actually still alive with her life running out of her. Transcripts and recorded audio may be available for many of the programs you hear on WNYC. That the earth couldn't support this many people. Zyklon A, which was originally just a pesticide-. All rights reserved. And I heard about him from science writer, Sam Kean. Now the volunteer couldn't see the guy he was shocking, but he could definitely hear him. And, you know, my view about human nature is that it affords infinite potential for lightness and dark. They arrest Gary Le- Leon Ridgeway. They brought in psychiatrists and forensic psychologists to try to get an answer. And he is celebrated for it. Our staff includes Simon Adler, Maggie Bartholomew, Becca Bressler, Rachael Cusick, David Gebel, Ethel Hepti, Tracy Hunt, Matt Kielty, the lovely Robert Krulwich, Annie McEwen, Latif Nassar, Malissa O'Donnell, Adrian Wack, Pat Walters, and Molly Webster. Uh, she, uh, expressed disapproval about his, um, clothing choices. Prince-nez? Well, let's talk about Fritz Haber. You're going to keep giving what? And "Well, why the rage?" Can't keep holding it all in. I mean, you know, it's just one of those things we've been bringing back shows that we think are just vibrating still in the world. ", "Set deadly enmity between two friends make poor men's cattle break their necks, set fire on barns and haystacks in the night, and bid the owners quench, you quench with their tears. Let's just finish this. Maybe it's all about doubt in the end. She was one of the first women to earn a PhD in her country. And they ask for it to be reformulated to take out the warning smell. Where . A box of ashes. You know, he's a man adrift. It's a little bit more direct. But even with all that gore and horribleness, there was often a moment that people waited for; and in a way we wait for it still, even now. So, the subject seemed willing to shock another human being, but as soon as you say it's an order. Okay. You know what's going to happen if she [inaudible 01:02:25]. And almost like blaming the victims. This hour we take a look at what happens when we all try to live together. That was just for those of you haven't heard it yet, this is a kind of a rush through a- through sex reproduction. Although, I don't know if that's the right word for this next thing 'cause it's sort of more complicated. But he is a large, very strong man with a black belt in karate. Listen Now. And then, and- So, he says that and you're like, "Okay. And every scenario produced a different result. He recruited a bunch of subjects-. I mean, that's a pretty heady thing for, you know, a Jewish kid from Breslau to be hobnobbing with the Emperor and cabinet ministers. Cruelty, violence, badness. Thanks. And it's kind of surprising, a lot of them are really positive, even though they've just been told that they were duped. He buried them, or left their bodies in these little clumps in the woods-. Want to talk about bad people in Shakespeare. He would deny things. Like shocking an innocent stranger over and over. His experiment remains one of the most famous experiments of the 20th century. Because you are sullied by them. But you can't throw that air onto a plant. Why does God allow this to happen? There's trench warfare, it gets bogged down and Haber has an idea. Big questions are investigated . In a rage how? And did you go back to the party then and continued dinner partying for a while? Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. So, it's very-. Well what's the noble cause in this case? We'll be right back. Anytime the experimenter said, "You must continue." Then, we reconsider what Stanley Milgram's famous experiment really revealed about human nature (it's both better and worse than we thought). You know, I'm really proud of Job. And he goes home for a few days. With higher and higher voltage. No reason. All rights reserved. But even with all that gore and horribleness, there was often a moment that people waited for. Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. Three times a year, two times before-. They couldn't deploy it. I don't know, I would rather have scientists who carry doubt with them as they proceed, I-. According to some accounts, as they crept across no man's land. With all of the black-and-white moralizing in our world today, we decided to bring back an old show about the little bit of bad that's in all of us.and the little bit of really, really bad that's in some of us. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. Yep, women participants, he had an experimenter who wasn't a scientist, but was a member of the general public. I- I- I- well (laughs). You literally get a drip, drip, drip, of ammonia. Push button, get mortgage. Yeah let's . Take one. And while you're doing that, just give me your finger. And the rough statistics are that half of each of our bodies contains nitrogen from the Haber process. Just tiptoes out, just from time to time. Gary is dancing around this topic, Gary had denied this to his own lawyers. And there is no doubt that today's plants and animals carry the genetic legacy of ancestors who fought fiercely to survive and reproduce. And if they didn't go on, if they resisted, the experimenter would break out prod number two. Well, have you ever been blackmailed the way this woman was being blackmailed? You're telling this [inaudible 01:02:30]. And he says, "That's what people wanted. Yes. In that moment, my father, he stands up and he says. I knew she had a daughter and-. He has these pince-nez spectacles. That's like an adult blue whale of chlorine. In 1962, Stanley Milgram shocked the world with his study on obedience. How do you tell the real baddies from the rest of us? And he believed it. Well I mean, I know it does, sir. But in experiment number three, if they put the shockee in the same room with the shocker so the shocker could actually see the person as the shockee. And everyone thought, "Well, we know the solution. Haber's gas troops, uh, un- unscrewed, they opened the valves on almost 6000 tanks containing a 150 tons of chlorine. And, you know, it's a craft, but it's a craft with consequences. And then he starts this period of roaming. And you have a number of chemical reactions. Become A Member. He brings her up as an example of a- of a woman that he actually had strong feelings for. The Green River murders terrorized Seattle in the 1980s. Have you ever thought about killing someone? You know, what does he say? Podcasts; . Okay? You can be sure of your purchase with Casper's 100 night risk-free sleep on it trial. And Hitler takes over. Ear drums, God. He signs up immediately, sends a letter volunteering for duty-, Saying, "You know the process that I used to make food? Do we know? And he is basically homeless at this point. An mlsconsumeraccess.org number 3030. Visit casper.com/radiolab and use code radiolab and check out to get $50 towards select mattresses. If the experimenter is not a scientist, but is an ordinary man. Meaning, I mean, what- what- any idea what was in his mind? Let's begin with this story from our producer, Pat Walters. I think what it's doing is, uh, if you breathe it in, it sort of irritates your lungs to the extent that they sort of fills up with fluid so quickly that you sort of drown in your own phlegm. Speaking with Carol's mom, Carol's little daughter. Said, "Yes, I've thought about killing someone?". Said, "Deadly enmity between two friends make poor men's cattle break their necks, set fire on barns, and haystacks in the night, and bid the owners quench them with their tears. Now we're seeing about 100 million tons of synthetic fertilizer produced industrially each year. At this point, David's moved onto a new university and he's teaching an introductory psychology class. The experiment requires that we continue. Uh, he was doing his- his great science work right around the turn of, uh, the 20th century. In fact, his chemist had given this particular pesticide a smell. So, these are some word pairs. But as far as I know, there are none for Radiolab.I think I once read a statement from Jad and/or Robert that they view the show as an audio experience, and so believe it can't be captured in a transcript. And, "Well why the rage?" "Demand me nothing, what you know-, From this time forth, I never will speak word." And shortly after his return, Clara allegedly confronts him and says, "Look, you are morally bankrupt. Maybe it's all about doubt in the end. And 84% of the women. Is that nitrogen is [tryvalent 00:31:48]. It's a graphic or an illustrated novel. So, Jeff wrote this book because his father, Tom Jensen, was one of the lead detectives tracking Gary Ridgeway. They wanted someone who was really thrillingly bad, but in the end, was, uh, redeemed a bit. Fact is if you don't continue, uh, we're going to discontinue the experiment. So you ask like, "Why do people do bad things?". I'm not going to give you what you want. I'm going to take a break. He would give all his baddies at least one moment where they could be understood. And you like her. He had an attack or something there. And as he was in the kitchen, looking stupid, peeling the carrots to make salad, I came up to him laughingly, gently, so that he wouldn't suspect anything. Listen to free wherever you go to podcast and sign up at openearsproject.org. But we ended up walking this question around different people-. So Stanley Milgram actually begins these experiments-. And not just because he was vain, which everyone agrees he was, but because he loves his country. Literally disappeared for six months, and didn't tell anyone where she was because she was terrified that he was going to kill her. Time's up. ", Um, but Haber just kind of ignored her and-, He actually threw a dinner party in celebration-. Of course nobody wants to be killing other people. And he says, "Because of the rage." Nobody had done what he was about to do on the scale that he was about to do it. He would change where the shocker and the shockee sat. With higher and higher voltage. That's Fritz Haber's wife. You went through this a lot of times before and she's already told you she's in a hurry. Sixty-five percent-, To shock their fellow citizens, over and over again-. So, let me just get that ov- I mean-, So, again, the baseline study is the one where 65% of the volunteers-. Thank you to Jim Shapiro, whose most recent book is called Contested Will. That's like an adult blue whale of chlorine. And did you go back to the party then and continue dinner partying for a while? He had snapped. Well, have you ever been blackmailed the way this woman was being blackmailed? They continued shocking their corpses. And he was wearing a fur coat-. Whatever it is. That one simple, "Why?" And not just 'cause he was vain, which everyone agrees he was, but because he loves his country. He was doing his great science work right around the turn of the 20th century; so right around 1900. Then suddenly the thought occurred to me that my life would be much happier without him in existence.". Well that's to [inaudible 00:19:32], just cut it out. It's about 1880. No. And you tell us, "Actually, no. How could you? He wrote this graphic novel that I read about one of the most prolific serial killers in US history. When did he live, and what did he look and that kind of stuff? He refuses what we fully expect and what everybody on stage at that moment fully expects from him. Well, you know, you can see that's a good thing. He brings her up as an example of a woman that he actually had strong feelings for. So in the Milgram case. With my arm. Next, we meet a man who scrambles our notions of good and evil: chemist Fritz Haber, who won a Nobel Prize in 1918around the same time officials in the US were calling him a war criminal. Again, it's a pretty big thing to miss. Although, clearly, on some level they know it isn't. He figures out a way to take a lot of air that's filled with these little nitrogen bonds clinging to each other and pump it to a big iron tank. The time now is 0836 hours. And, um, in January of 1984, the Green River task force was formed. But 75% of the people who worked for him at the institute, they were Jewish. With help from Adam Cole, Rachel James, and Matt [Kielty 01:07:25]. Just push the button that corresponds to the right word. You know, he does it without humility, without- without a lot of doubt. We have nothing. Radiolab Presents: More Perfect - The Gun Show 69:05 : Feb 23, 2018: The Curious Case of the Russian Flash Mob at the West Palm Beach Cheesecake Factory 00:00:00 : Feb 19, 2018: Smarty Plants 34:54 : Feb 13, 2018: Ghosts of Football Past 36:40 : Feb 3, 2018: Radiolab Presents: More Perfect - One Nation, Under Money 55:04 : Jan 31, 2018 But if you put two experimenters in the room, and-. And on June 13, 2003, Gary was secretly taken out of his jail cell, and brought to a sort of very nondescript, concrete, ugly office building. This is what totally pulled me into the story. The Blank Slate follows one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind as he explores the idea of human nature and its moral emotional and political coverings. And he spent five years in a futile effort to distill gold from the ocean's waters. The most common source of nitrogen is in the air around us. These little nitrogen atoms will fiercely hold together and it's almost impossible to pry them apart. Uh, Haber it's unknown what happened for the rest of that evening, but it is a well-documented fact that the very next morning. So the subjects seem willing to shock another human being, but as soon as you say, "It's an order.". Under some circumstances we don't do the bad thing we're told to do because" here's another flip "We don't have to be told. I'm going to take a break. Radiolab is supported by Casper. And, "Because women have stepped on me all my life." What he means is that when nitrogen atoms are just free floating in the air, they will cling to each other. Because this room's echo-y. You know, "I just want to kill her. Now, we're seeing about a 100 million tons of synthetic fertilizer produced industrially each year and that tonnages then moves into our food source. Even when their sorrows almost were forgot, and on their skins is on the bark of trees, have written my life with my knife carved in Roman letters. That's historian Fritz Stern who also happens to be Fritz Haber's godson. Podcast Transcripts of Radiolab Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts What Up Holmes? Well, he started- he started fuming that his wife had- had dissed him. And give up the few details that they really needed to link him, certifiably, to all these crimes. So, as we begin this episode of the Bad Show, check out The Blank Slate by Steven Pinkner, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. We realize this is hard work, but what you are doing is for the good of Germany. The same year that Adolf Eichmann goes on trial for Nazi war crimes. Then a few months later, he started calling me, trying to get back together, but I didn't want to. So, you're saying they're shocking these people because they thought it was worthwhile? But if you think that's the right thing. And 91% of the men said yes. And 84 percent of the women. But this is why this is such an interesting guy, around the same time, officials in the U.S. government are calling him a war criminal. I mean-. There's a sort of chilling comparison which is a speech that Himmler gave to some SS leaders when they were about to commit a range of atrocities. [inaudible 00:49:36] bad people in Shakespeare. Uh, walked in and asked his wife, uh, where this friend of mine was. The shocker would say, "Hell no I don't.". You walk into the room, what do you find? He's a master planner. The whole thing happened several years ago. He claimed they were in the middle of a sex act, he would get distracted, something would happen, he just kind of went crazy, he had snapped; and almost blaming the victims. Nobody had done what she was about to do on the scale that he was about to do it. And it's moving at about one meter per second. But he does it with a kind of amoral athleticism, he does it without humility, without a lot of doubt. Like you just did, which happens constantly. They start disagreeing with each other, and this one you get zero percent going all the way. He goes straight to the German high command, and he pitches this idea. Yeah, me too. He actually was very humiliated that Germany had lost, and especially humiliated over the fact that they had to pay enormous war reparations to other countries. Thanks. I'm good. plus-circle Add Review. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues, uh, made the arrest. Accuracy and availability may vary. You're bad. Terms and conditions apply. Meaning to life to reveal itself in a way that restores order and gives us hope that all of this isn't just meaningless chaos. Then the executioner castrates you, cuts you open, and takes out your internal organs, and then separate your head; which is put on a post. Check out the Casper or the Wave mattress with a support system that mirrors your body shape. To the best of your memory, which word was matched with nice? In- in other words, nitrogen has really strong attachments to itself. They're trying to do the right thing. So, here's the interesting thing. Is that like a- like a green cloud? This story made us wonder, "Is David's friend-". And in the other room, there was a guy, who he called the learner, who was supposed to have memorized some words. A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of someone halfway across the world. WNYC's Radiolab The Good Show Hosted by Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich Jan. 01, 2012 The standard view of evolution is that living things are shaped by cold-hearted competition. Like, he didn't intend for that to happen. Is that how you say that thing-. How many of them went into that kind of detail? And even though, in the end, they got him to confess to these 49 murders, they never really get any closer to an answer than this first one. Radiolab is supported in part by the Alfred P Sloan Foundation enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. Yeah. He is- he wants to feed- he wants to feed Germany. My father's trying to, like, reach out to him. Terms and conditions apply. Now you're saying actually that you could read that, that very dark fact, as being actually evidence of something quite- quite noble. Now what you need to understand about Alex Haslam is that he hates it when interviewers only want to talk about the baseline study. The thing is that I do have a new boyfriend, but my ex-boyfriend doesn't know that yet, and I'm terrified that he'll do what he says. That's it? Horrified like, "Oh my God, my students are murderers?" Stanley Milgram took electric shock very seriously. This is Radiolab and today talking about? The subjects range in occupation from corporation presidents to good [inaudible 00:12:29] and plumbers. He would dance around things. Bread from the air was the phrase 'cause Haber had figured out a way to take nitrogen from the air, put it into the barren ground, and grow wheat. There's lots and lots of lessons here, but one is I think when you're enjoying to do something for the greater good, maybe ask yourself the question, "What is greater, and what is good?". Was he trying to make a commentary, and so was he grappling with something? It's a pretty big thing to miss (laughs) isn't it? "Just wanted to kill them, I just needed to kill them." And also thank you to Alex Haslem, Professor of Psychology at the University of Exeter. Hi, my name's Josh and I'm calling from Harlem, New York. Nice sky? Read these words. Quite literally. Jul 28, 2018 The thing is that I do have a new boyfriend, but my ex boyfriend doesn't know that- that yet, and I'm terrified that he'll do what he says. And everyone thought, "Well, we know the solution.". But- but there's part of me that says, you know, here's a guy who just wanted to do everything better than had ever been done before. Okay, so I heard this one from this guy named David-. Let's begin with this story from our producer Pat Walters. "This was exactly what was in my mind. He says, "Well, we can drive those enemy soldiers out of trenches with gas.". In any case-. Test the outer edges of what you think you know, Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. Any idea what the hell he was intending? Many of them after they were murdered. And so I went up to the bedroom to find him and he was in a rage. He did this experiment a bunch of times in a bunch of different ways. Equal Housing lender licensed in all 50 states. Thanks also to reporter Aaron Scott for that story. Hey wait! And you've done this how many times before. And a mysterious past. This is Radiolab and today we're talking about Well, we're trying to think about what goes on in the mind of a bad person. Jeff Jensen's book is The Green River Killer, A True Detective Story. Well, the thing that haunts me about the why question that I'm reminded of one of the oldest stories in the Bible, which is the story of Job. Even when they go along with the experiment-. And that's what Shakespeare did in all his plays. Radiolab.org. Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. And so when I went to the party, the party was already in full swing when I got there. Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. That's what you do. So, in the end where do you come down? My students are murderers.". Well if the idea is that people will do bad if they think it's good, if it's a good noble cause. I mean, that was make believe. And so, we've decided that it's time to go back to something we did once upon a time when we were wondering about good and bad. Fast forward 10 years. One that applies smart technologies at scale with purpose and expertise; not just for some, but for all. Um, I got a little, uh, I- my- this is my dorsal hair stood up when I read the end of this. Now, as we sort of know in life, lots of things that we if they're worthwhile doing, they're not always easy. Who is going to do this powerful piece of science. Only then does God speak up and kind of say, like, "You're gonna question me?" That's correct, because it takes such energy and pressure to separate it, its trivalent bond is so strong that when it comes back together, that energy is released, it can be used for life or death. When you call someone then you're kind of done with them. The fact that he kept on doing it over, and over, and over again was like, "Come on.". And that's all the difference in the world. For much the same reasons. [inaudible 00:06:31], Well not horrified, it was I pretty stunned. So Jeff wrote this book because his father, Tom Jensen, was one of the lead detectives tracking Gary Ridgeway. Yeah, me too. September 15, 2022 Radiolab for Kids and WNYC Studios present Terrestrials, a six-episode miniseries hosted by Lulu Miller (co-host of Radiolab . In that, "Why?" Carries electric shocks. Iago. I'm not going to give you- I'm- I'm not going to help restore the sense that there is a moral order to the world and a moral norm. It was actually a crushing blow for- for him. But what you're doing is for the good of Germany, and this is necessary in order to advance our noble cause.". My name's Benjamin Walker and here are some RadioLab credits. Of course, normally you just have one experimenter who's giving you these instructions. This was a moment when human cruelty was on trial. Sort of unsportsmanlike. Really, that story's been told a million and one times for the last 50 years, we've just got to get over it. 1933 comes. We take a look at one particular fantasy lurking behind these numbers, and wonder what this shadow world might tell us about ourselves and our neighbors. ", "Even- even when their sorrows almost were forgot. The Germans on one side, the French, the Canadians and the British on the other. And they think it's right. This is just somebody who's performing brain surgery without anesthesia on other people. But what's clear is that he saw no reason to question what he had done and that infuriated Clara. Yeah. Nitrogen is an essential part of amino acids and proteins. Yeah. And my views about human nature are that it affords infinite potential for lightness and dark. But I needed to kill her because of that. This is RadioLab. My name's Benjamin Walker and here are some Radiolab credit. 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