Once all the wiring is laid out it is pretty simple to figure out. Seen one in the "legends of the autobahn" car show a couple of years ago in Carmel/Monterey. It rides on a set of Cosmis Racing XT206R wheels with 189.5-inch in front and 1811-inch in back. MB 300E 24v Turbo MS3X. Source: Team Lovetap (project page), Team Lovetap FB page, Auto-Gruppen FB page, and Drifted. To swap a non V8 w124 into LH V8 spec would require the following parts changing: Wouldn't it be fun to have a 500e wagon? Also note that the 1992 M119 engine is a KE-Jetronic engine, whereas the M119 as used in the 500E is LH-Jetronic, and the injection as used on the M104 you mentioned is HFM (essentially Motronic). Black striped white vacuum line for throttle body, Remove overflow pipe to coolant reservoir, Wiring under both headlights and loom ties, Bolt on driver side securing pipe to chassis, Disconnect supply and return lines on pump, Return behind ignition coil, 17mm and 14mm, Disconnect main engine wiring and set aside, Disconnect auxiliary wiring and set aside, Cruise control servo (8 pin connector under ABS pump), Crankshaft position sensor (front) underneath X92, Disconnect exhaust downpipes from exhaust manifold, Disconnect transmission shifter linkage(s), Suggest removing entirely to avoid bending the rods accidentally, Disconnect transmission slave cylinder fluid line (manuals only). This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. It was built for the track and drifting. You must log in or register to reply here. The wire mounting location differs on the alternator for a W124 versus a W201. There are two approaches to getting the wiring completed for this swap. Doesn't the 93 sportline have the switchable differential? The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v Read More Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six 1994 Mercedes Wagon with a Turbo LSx - Part 14 July 9, 2018 W124 Looks like im gonna be spending a lot of money on this projecthehe. The secondary firewall and motor mounts are also positioned differently to accommodate the extra length of the M103. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The Mercedes-Benz M104 is a straight-6 automobile engine produced from 1989 through 1999. I just like to make plan on what and how I am going to do it so when it comes time I know exactly what needs to be done. If you really want to get speed though, deff change the brakes. Another option is to swap in the CIS version of the M104 engine found on the earliest M104 powered cars (1990-1992 300CE and 1990-1993 300SL). Therefore, nothing but good old venerable striahgt 6s. Connect single pin connector by ignition coil, Connect AC compressor wires (blue/green, white, blue/red), Connect throttle position wires (brown/yellow, brown, gray/yellow). Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. Aftermarket is obviously with the LS. All new control harnesses would need to be fabricated for all of the car's systems and the battery and cables run to the trunk. cheap way ,and use procharger instead. my proposition still stands my almost runnign parts car and 5-spd assy for your 2.6 5-spd. Learn how your comment data is processed. this is why my mercedes is a stock classic show car and my NA volvo 850 GLT is going to me my tuned performance car. Unrelated but tied to the M104 is the crumbling wiring issue, and evaporator failure. : 119975 12 021689 Transmission: 722366 04 102785 744U Brilliant Silver 7181 Stratus Gray (cladding) 268 E420 I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. The team also includes mechanics Christopher Reinholdsson, Robin Carlsson, Stefan Engstrm, Jesper Jumisko, Edvin Olsson, Joel Haglund, and media/spotter Sebastian Simonsson. Ok got it all nearly wrapped up this past week, around 60 hours or so to turn key M104. It barely sticks now when floored. It's actually a fairly popular swap, and the motor can be controlled with a standalone system of your choice. After 6 years of reading this forum, I was under the impression that a 5L LH M119 will install neatly into a 400E, 100% of the time for 10 times less than what JC220 wants to charge some incognizant stranger? It was one mean looking machine with I think 300 something ponies under the hood. AMG would be nice and or a V8. Alright, putting a 94 M104 into a 89 2.6 5spd W201 (Green/Black). JavaScript is disabled. Will be taking it there soon so I'll post my times. The motor is mated to a modified 722.634 five-speed automatic transmission with custom 5000 rpm converter, W124 210 mm LSD rear end, and Sportline 300E 32 mm axles. If you have an E320 sedan and want more power, start shopping for an E420 with ASR and heated seats, rust-free, in your favorite color combo. Convert the E320 into a coupe, THEN do the engine swap. Yeah, I've got a thread going over there too. Is removal and shorter belt fitting possible? Its a 3.0, 7000rpm limit, and 228hp, 201 lb.ft. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. The stock 3.8L Euro has 218bhp and I have flowmaster exhaust, an intake from a 420SEL, (It bolts right on), and a crane cams ignition. I did all the swaps and all the work myself. As a side note, the block has over 150k on it and the bores are still within a thou of origional specs, there are no ring marks at the top and you can still see the factory cross-hatch. Nissan 350Z Gets Turbo Mercedes M104 By Michael Van Runkle Published Jun 7, 2020 The Merc powered 350Z pumps out an impressive 510 horsepower and 464 lb-ft of torque, which is much more than the stock Nissan mill. But any ways, what engines can I put in my 190? haha, no worries! History, Power & Specs of the Engine M104 2.8 L M104.900 3.0 L M104.98x 217 to 228 hp@ 6400 rpm 265Nm (195lbft@ 4600) (with cat) This part requires custom work from an A/C hose shop that can crimp new hoses. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Will always be cheaper to get what you want from the get go, If a wagon is your thing, maybe find a junkyard S124 and V8 124 with a crappy body and just frankenstein them? Find a decent but cheap 400e or a very cheap 500e and bite the bullet on cost upfront and invest the time to make it 'good'. Mrten competes in a special 2003 Mercedes CLK we first covered in 2015. Now that I'm fully woken up and on my third cup of coffee, I also want to mention that the KE-Jet M119 has a completely different computer and electronics setup than the LH-based M119 cars. Another 500e wagon is born: Silver / Gray | High-Performance Modifications, Imperial Red 500E Wagon Build | High-Performance Modifications, SOLD - 1995 E420 Special Edition, Brilliant Silver/Gray, 113k, $4900 (Tampa, FL) | 400E / E420 Cars for Sale. I've gotten the complete HFM/CC/ISC harnesses out, ready to harvest more. Simple and cheap power however since I wasnt inclined to do a engine swap I bought a E420. After the legendary E30 and its potent inline-four, then the successful inline-sixes of the E36 and E46, the step up to a V8 did seem a bit unavoidable. 120492018_1240624106295229_4604718134584404570_n.jpg. If I was ever going swap in a V8 into a W124 sedan it would be a Chevy LS motor. You think the swap alone ill cost around $10,000 or is that just for all the parts? We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. The injection system is still CIS and the ignition system is still EZL, but additional work is required to make the swap complete. ya dont destroy a 5-speed sportline. Install without transmission. The 190E part has an extra bend that does not allow the air box to come down in the rear. Hello, I'm new to the Mercedes world, just picked up a 1993 190e 2.6 sportline 5spd manual for my daily driver. Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. In sweden used m103/m104 cost about 250-750 $. Power is sent through a 4-inch driveshaft to a BMW E34 differential modified to fit the factory Mercedes subframe. from my search I limit the option for an engine swap between the M104.980 from w124 300ce 24v and the M104.990 from a W140 320. Makes a fantastic daily driver. I have a mint condition M104 I6 3.2L and the transmission is mint, so is the diff. This Nissan 350Z was built to drift by Yaroslav Kremets from Nomotors in Kyiv, Ukraine. As, If the OP sends me a container with subject vehicle, m119.970 + donor 400E and $25k I can make it work in a few months. torque using the old KE Elctro-Mechanical Fuel Injection like that used on the older m103 Inline 6. Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. the mercedes is a DD that gets 30mpg that looks good. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. Is it possible to have 5-speed w/ this engine? I heard the M104 is the same longblock engine as the M103 with the same fuel delivery system, except it is bored out for more displacement, and has DOHC 4 valves per cyllinder instead of SOHC 2 per cyllinder, but is essentially the same engine. If you are picky about colors and options, plan on a nationwide search that may take 6 months or longer. It doesn't get over 300 horsepower but its pretty quick. I owned a supra before this car and miss it. Is there a cross reference for this or is the ebay special the best bet? The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. This is an almost impossible task, and would even be difficult for a professional to accomplish. Lengthen and connect the 3 prong connector under fuel distributor for airflow potentiometer (brown/green, blue/black, blue/green), Lengthen and connect the 1 prong coolant temperature sensor (green), Lengthen and connect the 2 prong coolant temperature sensor (brown, green), Lengthen and connect cold start valve wire, Longer CIS 4 prong coolant temperature sensor. So my question is, can I just find a used M104 3.2 liter engine and ECU, and toss it into my car? My daily is an LS swapped 80 series land cruiser. . Way back in 2007, we were presented with an interesting engine swap. So one day we decided that that nobody has ever ( that I've seen) built and successfully completed a 500e wagon. How to get your M119 5.0L V8 running optimally? The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. Lower hose is only about 20cm long. 1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone CURRENT - 1974 450SEL s class W116 Addict Posts: 4,213 I'll keep the 116's, the rest can go Location: Squeezing 3 W116's into a double garage Logged #1 19 August 2010, 12:38 PM His forum name is SG Motorsports. as for fitting in the 104 engine, it is anyone's guess whether the manifold and down pipes will clear the steering box. Inside the car you find a custom six-point roll cage, Takata 6-point harness, Sparco Evo 2 seats. Remove with transmission attached. the m103 to m104 is a pretty common swap but the power gain is about 60hp or so. It's lacking power to spin the big heavy 18" AMG monoblock wheels it came with, so I'm looking into an engine swap. i have the m102 2.0 in the car as is and i have heard that the problem with having the smaller motor rather than the 2.3 or 2.6 is that the steering box will cause a problem when fitting the engine? i'd ditch the 18's and go with 16 or 17's you really don't want to tear apart a good working 2.6 5-spd because they are getting harder and harder to come by. Unfortunatly, I have done tons of research, and it all depends on how much you want to spend. Removed the front bumper, upper radiator support, radiator, condenser, and engine harness. Has a black W201FTW vanity plate. w16302ML500 w21097E50Amg w20299C230K w12494420e /==>w12495320e-199u (needs elec TLC) /GreatWhiteNorth Kanada, I dont think w210 would be the right forum for this but i changed it, 89 190E2.6- 5-speed Manual - 200K miles, 95 E320 Sportsline-sold, 2001 E320 4matic Wagon-sold. This BMW E46 has spent the past two years being built by VRP Fab in Lublin, Poland for drifting. Quote: Originally Posted by oldsinner111. M119 upper engine harness - how to rewire temp plug? Going to add the flywheel magnet to a single mass M103 FW, Forgot to mention this is also a non-ASR engine, the amount of wire harnesses and modules even on the simpler 6cyl is a bit staggering.I think adapting a BMW M50 motronic would probably be easier, Steve Geyer has done this swap with his 190E, he would be an excellent source for this. An additional option is to have a high pressure diagnostic port installed as well since this port will be lost from switching to the M104 A/C manifold. Navigation Menu . Probably $15k min, but you'd have a torque monster that'd be just as interesting (or more) than a V8 S124. Also depends if you are willing to take on a "mechanic's special" that is cheap because they couldn't figure out what's wrong with it. The alternator for the W124 will work, but the wires will be kinked in an unnatural position. 1990 190E 2.6 oil pressure problem uh-oh! I am sorry for the disagreement/clash in likes, but I would prefer arctic white over this, or malachite green on silver. __________________. These are the prices for the 95 E320 two years ago: $575.00 124 440 56 32 (early model run) $714.76 124 440 29 33 (late model run) You can type in these part numbers (or the number on your current harness) on FastLane to determine the current prices. What can be done and how much will it cost? Biggest problem isint fuel, if u cant retard ignition according to boost then eventually u have some major engine failure. A number of years back I had converted a manual 1987 W124 200 (4 cylinder carb engine) to a 3.6 HFM engine and auto trans. Picture time, A few more things for anyone wanting to do the swap. Heater core and radiator connections are both identical, M103 vacuum hard line fits well, 124.104 PS Pump has larger fittings 201.103 is direct replacement just swap over rear mount bracket, late model 124 AC discharge lines up with condenser..suction just needs one crimp to combine 103 upper and 104 lower half R R0BB09 E500E Newbie Aug 10, 2019 Each wheel is turned by upgraded axles with modified knuckles and BMW E34 hubs. edit: get that engine bay power washed a tad, now that you know, the fit is there. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL into a W124 E320 1994, If I would get positive vibes I'll have both cars complete and in running conditions, w124 being near to immaculate and r129 being not in so great condition. For reference: I've owned/own 2 M104 swapped 190Es. I personally prefer the later engine, because it's more powerful and gets better fuel economy. Haven't taken it to the track yet but I know it has over 220bhp. The ol' girl has probably done around 8-10k trouble free miles since the swap, until the air pump bearing decided to retire and smoked the belt. go the suggested 400E + LH M119 route, which gives you an 80-90% chance of success. Most E420's do not have ASR nor heated seats. Source: Team Lovetap and Team Lovetap FB page. Front of block: 350SDL "Diesel" crank (Now not just limited to L series fun for strokers!) If you want one super clean AND fully sorted it might be closer to $10k. Learn how your comment data is processed. Using the original 190E A/C manifold hoses not work entirely either. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. M104.981ish 3.0L Engine Block Moar. Behind the engine sits a five-speed manual transmission taken from a BMW E46 3.0d and connected via a bell housing from a Mercedes 2.7 CDI. Was real nice. The engine is mated to a Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox using a Sachs Motorsports pressure plate, Tenaci Motorsport 200 mm clutch discs and flywheel. Affectionately called the LS-190, the swap looked to be carefully planned out, and rather well executed. The turbocharger system consists of a TB90 90 mm turbocharger, 60 mm wastegate, 50 mm blowoff valve, Turbobandit intake, 90 mm throttle body, and stainless exhaust manifold. It has a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and used a crossflow cylinder head. I remember seeing an AMG 190E on ebay, fuly decked out by AMG and Renntech a while back. easist way for me would be add two injector before throttle body, let a a along ecu to fire them with rpm sensing. Not to mention, but on the 500E, the computers are located under the hood, and the battery is located in the trunk. Im gonna have to work my ass off to be able to do the work on this benzbut it will all be worth it in the end. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums. via Oppositelock. VIN: WDBEA34EXSC224807 FIN: WDB1240341C224807 Engine no. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Head gasket and oil leaks are common to both engines. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. With such a light car I don't think you need more than 300. I have plenty of tuning spirit, but some things are best left alone. weren't there like 100 sportline LEs built for the USA and 100 for europe? M104.98x Motor Swap in a 190E One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. these are quite uncommon. Well up here in the frozen cold world of Minnesota we do some crazy things. What are some 1/4 time and or top speed #'s for people have done these swaps? A solution to fix this is to use the M104 A/C manifold (104 230 04 56 is NLA, aftermarket solution: Four Seasons 55586) and have both hoses custom made. Yes, I'm putting the 1995 E420 Special Edition on the block for a number of reasons which I'm not going to expound on here about. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. you should check on 190rev there's more tuning types there than here. You are using an out of date browser. Mounting the 190E A/C manifold to the engine block introduces a problem where the A/C compressor can no longer be mounted to the accessory bracket. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU . The original 190E engine support brackets must be brought over from the original motor as well as the motor mounts. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Anyone with experience in HFM swaps care to shed some light as to exactly what I need to pull out of the donor 124? ..looking in that engine bay I understand why, https://teamlovetap.com/the-only-w209-driftcar-in-the-world. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. I want mercedes V8 power, or at least AMG 6 cylinder. Every panel is made from FRP (fiber-reinforced plastic) except for A-pillar, C-pillar, and roof. I was just giving you a hard time. Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support. Time laps build of my 190e 3.2 M104engine swap,mercedes,190e,mercedes 190e engine swap m104.942 test,mercedes-benz m104 engine,w201 m111 m104 190e mercedes s. articles/m104.98x_motor_swap_in_a_190e.txt, W201 (specifically 1992-1993 190E 2.6, other models need adaptation). Mercedes w203 Engine Swap "The Plan" (Pt.1) M271|M104|M111 Ricer Benz 4.27K subscribers Join Subscribe 143 Share 10K views 2 years ago M111 turbo Video link :. It replaced the M103 and was replaced by the M112 V6 starting in 1997. Mercedes M104 make a good tuning project and with carefully chosen sports modifications like remapping, turbo upgrades and camshafts you will substantially increase your driving opportunities. and the other thing you have a mercedes not a honda or a toyota if you want performance and the tuning spirit get a honda.. these cars arent really geared toward performance and to modify them for it will cost you some change. I guess a V8 it sorta out of the questionand seems kinda pointless. Only 100 cars like mine ever imported into the US, really, I don't know, can anyone cite accurate numbers? The M104.98x now has an updated version of CIS that is not directly compatible with the older version. My M104 is a 99 hfm. All bolt-in, no welding required. Swapped! I generaly like motors bigger than4cylunless they are turbo. Said it made around 345hp(?) I would like to put an engine in mine that puts out at leat 300maybe 255+. Hi Adriano. 4 bangers can be quite powerful.. Remember that according to any 400E/E420 owner, it is 90% of a 500E !! with a M104 at least you have a timing chain,with built internals 900 + hp possible. Bolt starter to transmission later. I used 400E brakes, but the nicest is using 95 SL 600 brakes up front and rearThe rear are vented rotors instead of solidI've seen racing slicks lock up with 190Es and no ABS with these brakesBut be prepared for another $1200. That was later replaced with a turbocharged M104.992 inline-six now making 1000+ horsepower on 8.7:1 compression and MegaSquirt MS3X ECU. Would you recomend doing this swap? It is the newer 24valve m104 engine. The car has been completely rebuilt with upgraded suspension, brakes and drift-spec steering. The engine features stock crank, Turbobandit 143 mm H-beam rods, stock pistons, stock bearings, Enem camshafts, double valve springs, Audi R8 coilpacks, and 2200 cc injectors. Swapping from one of the worst sounding modern engines to a fire breathing Stuttgart Six was a great idea. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. I haven't done much looking into the nitty gritty details myself when it comes to the electrical side of the swap, I just know it's becoming increasingly more prevalent. Navigation Menu. Doing the upgrades on an E420 is plug+play, and easily done if you have the ability to handle an engine swap. Maybe a steering unit from a w210? Is there a worthy replacement for the 190E 2.6. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I would reduce the length by half a centimeter. The W124 has the connection point closer underneath the brake booster line and is about 5 inches shorter. the volvo is a non turbo auto which will become a t-5R 5 spd in the future. '87--190E 2.3-16v(being rebuilt), '99--C230 Kompressor. Use it however you wish or block it off. I think you meant steering box/column from a w201 (not W210) W103 is what you meant. Originally Posted by Kestas. Yup, that's John's car. The body features a custom widebody designed by SeidoWorks. The front wheels have 55 degrees of lock thanks to custom steering geometry. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. Source: Nomotors.ua and Mt Nuszer via Piotr. Mercedes made a ton of upgrades when they put the V8 into the 6-cyl chassis, which is why you can't easily upgrade the E320. Any slk egne fit in there? Could any of yall point me in the right direction to d this? BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. You will need to reclock the alternator by removing the screws holding the 2 halves of the alternator together and turning them to match how a 190E alternator looks. used 2jz is about 3500-10000 $. I think if you're looking for a fast 124, you have a bunch of options that'll be cheaper than swapping a v8 into an I6 car. Mrten will lower the power to around 860 whp while . Connect oil pressure and oil level sensor wires, Bolt wire bracket to rear of intake manifold (10mm), Connect alternator wires coming from right fender, Connect rear crankshaft position sensor wire, Connect front crankshaft position sensor under X11 diagnostic port, Connect heater return hose at back of engine, Use W124 water reservoir overflow hose and 190E valve from thermostat cover, Use T connector at front vacuum nipple to connect to EZL and EGR/Smog pump solenoid, Connect black striped white vacuum line from throttle body to check valve at fender behind headlight, Connect 3 vacuum line at rear of intake manifold. I put in my 190 would even be difficult for a professional to accomplish into a 89 2.6 W201... Almost m104 engine swap task, and used a crossflow cylinder head this, or malachite green on silver swapped 190Es the..., what engines can I just find a custom six-point roll cage Takata. Have some major engine failure we do some crazy things overhead cam design 4... 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