Lisa:Rigo, I feel like you're about to tell me that there's a secret clique or confederacy if you will of rich racists sitting in a basement somewhere funding every racist academic. Rigo:In the end, he did not get sued for libel, but he did remain a thorn in the side of The Pioneer Fund. But what Barry Mehler did was to go deeper. Lisa:Wow. Rigo:Exactly, but he does it in a very polished away. Barry:I came across Roger Pearson right away, I mean really early on. Lisa:Back up a second. So up until now, we've been talking about the neo Nazi propaganda that Barry Mehler gets in the mail, but what does he actually do with all the information he's collecting? I mean, I annoyed them a lot, and so, the- they're calling up civil rights groups, the people that might know me, and trying to, uh, get information, and they said this in their investigation, you know, uh, for a possible lawsuit. There are no reviews yet. Lisa:So is The Pioneer Fund involved with Murray and The Bell Curve? This was everywhere, [laughs] uh, while I was growing up. Lisa:I feel like you're about to play me an example. This is an episode from the spring of 1990. Lisa, could you read this quote from him? historian, very mailer charges that the pioneer funds interest in race differences made the Bell Curves arguments. He left most of his money to The Pioneer Fund, much to the chagrin of his close family, and The Pioneer Fund handed out more money two years after his death than in the entire period of 1937 to 1972. Paul: And while he's in Europe Draper quite literally pals around with Nazis. Rigo:When Barry Mehler said guys like Philippe Rushton aren't just Neo Nazis, they're old fashioned Nazis, he was serious. He also shares the story of meeting wife Marlo Thomas, how he feels about being parodied on Saturday Night Live, and what he really thinks of Oprah Winfrey. web pages Barry:We had DEFCON levels at my house, levels of security. Barry:One day walking on the street, it was a beautiful spring day, and I was daydreaming, and unbeknownst to me, two boys run up behind me, and one of them just punched me in the back, sent me flying, you know, stars, and, you know, and then, then they run on. Lisa:Okay. on September 9, 2018. Is he the psychologist whose work is cited in The Bell Curve? Why would I publish under a pseudonym? To me, it seems like he's trying to present himself as a reasonable, well spoken guy who's just asking questions, all in the name of academic curiosity, of course. Laughlin gave them a kind of eugenics spin, giving them a kind of scientific veneer that they didn't have before the Eugenics Movement came along. That's an entirely other level of bad. He had a much more prestigious position than, than I had. Rigo:Arthur Jensen in particular got more than a million dollars from them. Rigo:Mehler not only sent out his subscriptions, but he was also a due paying member of white supremacist organizations. He uncovers dozens of academics with double lives. One were actual scientists working on projects that Pioneer though w- would have results that could be exploited for their political agenda. In his four-and-a-half hour Archive interview, Phil Donahue describes the meandering path that led to hosting his long-running talk show, The Phil Donahue Show aka Donahue. We're losing. What Pearson had done was he brought together all of these fascist intellectuals, academics that had been orphaned by the war, and they needed a place to come together. Their desire is to have a platform to disseminate their ideas, and we would be giving them platform if we allow them to speak to here. So, Lisa, I know that you've done some research on eugenics because we've done other episodes that touch on it. There's a load of absolute rubish. For example, when I went on the shows, you know, the audience was overwhelmingly on my side. Rigo:And since then, Mehler has always operated under the assumption that Nazis never really went away, and as it turns out, he's right. Episode 3from the Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race series. The more citations, the more funding, the more chances to become tenured. Barry: The Pioneer was looking for scholars who were willing to take a stand, and that's what Jensen was willing to do. Germany modeled its involuntary sterilization laws on ours. He stumbles his way into Harvard but he has very mediocre grades, and he eventually joins the Army, where he works his way up to the rank of Colonel. Enjoy! The Bell Curve was The Pioneer Fund's biggest win when it was published in 1994. Search the history of over 797 billion 8 No. Rigo:It's called The Pioneer Fund, and over the years, it has bankrolled dozens of race scientists and other academics who push these kind of views. 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Search the history of over 797 billion The father is just driving along proud of his son. He was in deep. And since these race scientists all knew each other, the journal became kind of like an echo chamber, and they all praised and cited each other's work to give it the veneer of legitimate science. Barry:You know when you don't want to know? He ran the Phil Donahue show for almost 3 decades with nearly 7000 one-hour daily shows. He knew exactly what they were up to. Rigo:Right. It's standard journalism practice to reach out to people if you're gonna talk about them. Is it still around? Rigo:The Pioneer Fund only cared about upholding white supremacy. To create this kind of intellectual continuity, this current that bridges the eugenics in the 1930s to the present day. He explains how his journey took him from announcing television news at KYW in Cleveland, Ohio, to working in a bank in Albuquerque, New Mexico, to directing radio news in Adrian, Michigan. That is the foundation for the claims that African-American people on average are intellectually inferior to whites. Be the first one to, The Phil Donahue Show with John Wayne (1976), Advanced embedding details, examples, and help, Terms of Service (last updated 12/31/2014). Every place I went for a scientist, uh, or a- an activist who had been involved in these issues, there was connections between them and Draper and Pioneer. After 29 years, (26 of which in syndication) and nearly 7,000 shows, the final episode aired on September 13, 1996. In 2002, Donahue was ranked 29th on TV Guide magazine's list of the 50 greatest television shows of all-time. [7] ^ Heldenfels, Rich (2019-01-09). He seems to delight in presenting guests who are anti-war, anti-Bush and skeptical of the administrations motives. web pages Rigo:Yes, and here's an example of that. He was a member of the magazine's advisory board. Rigo:Okay. He started researching eugenics in grad school, and his methods were not typical to say the least. At the end of World War II chemist Charles Phelps Smyth chased down German nuclear scientists and the equipment they left behind. Senior Producer: Mariel Carr This We're not making progress here. Rigo:Some of it was just completely bonkers. Los Angeles - 1985 - Janet Leigh Jamie Lee Curtis.mp4. And even after his death, Pioneer continued the same tradition, which was the distribution of unsolicited works to various individuals in the hopes that it would influence public policy. Rigo:Exactly. the video in question is 14 minute long course introduction that he sent out to his students students earlier this month. He is an actor and producer, known for Body of War (2007), Donahue (1967) and The Bold and the Beautiful (1987). Rigo:Something that a lot of people don't know is that the Nazis got the ideas about eugenics from the United States. Donahue - Phil Donahue : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive Volume 90% 00:00 44:06 44:06 1 Donahue - 1972 - Gladys Knight 45:36 2 He knows there must be more there, and sure enough, he was right. Rigo:[laughs] Yeah. James Moll conducted the interview on May 9, 2001 in New York, NY. Rigo:Right, exactly. Rigo:So instead of going to the police, Barry asked his friends who used to be Marines to come live in his house with their guns and their 125 pound rottweiler. Television programsTelecommunications industry, MCI Communications CorporationLuce Press ClippingsAT & T (Firm), Manuscripts and Archives Department, Hagley Museum and Library, MCI Communications Corporation records (Accession 2225). I did the math, and it would be like, something like 160 million in today's money, so when I say his family was wealthy, I meant it, like their ancestral home was a castle in Scotland. Andhe said, I don't understand. And we just went down a whole list, and, you know, and he confirmed that he was all those people. Rigo:Yeah, that's completely right. And the whole thing in a way does confirm what Barry Mehler had an inkling of since he was a boy. He teaches at a college no one's heard of, and he's on a Donahue to debate Rushton. Instead, they used various combinations. Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. The white race is absolutely endangered, and the Jews have absolutely control over the mind of Americans. And here the relationship was reversed, in which Pioneer or Draper would contact these people and say, "Oh, I see you're doing things. Barry:I don't need to have credit. WebHost Phil Donahue questions Bill Clinton and Albert Gore, Jr. in the studios of Nashville's WSMV-TV, taking questions from members of the audience including Stacy Harris who Barry:Jerry Hirsch sued Roger Pearson, so we were able to get a deposition under oath, and I prepared a list for Jerry's attorney to simply ask, uh, Pearson, "Have you published under this name, this name, this name, this name?" And, um, my son picked up the phone one day, and this, uh, guy said to him, um, "I'm gonna kill you, chop you up into pieces, and mail you back to your dad in boxes.". The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. The American Breed: Nazi eugenics and the origins of the Pioneer Fundby Paul Lombardo, The Funding of Scientific Racism: Wickliffe Draper and the Pioneer Fundby William Tucker, The New Eugenics: Academic Racism in the U.S. Todayby Barry Mehler, Superior: The Return of Race Scienceby Angela Saini. Listen to this. Is there anything that can get you cut off? He still does anti fascist work posting on his YouTube channel and mentoring young scholars to pick up where he left off because the neo Nazi fascists are still out there. Barry:I mean, to this day I can't, you know, tell you what that does to me. McNeil/Leher Report:What has landed the bell curve on the cover of many magazines and Charles Murray on numerous talk shows is that the book also links IQ with race on Mary's bell curve of IQ scores, blacks as a group have an average IQ of 85 whites, 100 Asians, 105. Phillipe Rushton on Donohue:Oriental populations have less sexual partners than do whites. By being the first and most vocal critical of The Pioneer Fund and neo Nazis, it made him a target. He's unorthodox, and he points out how Rushton's ideas are kind of ridiculous. By downloading this file you agree to our access conditions and use restrictions. Some are big name academics at big name universities. Lisa:Okay. Rigo:So this incident sent Mehler on a path. Expressing frustration over teaching in person during the pandemic of viewers sent me the video upset about the language, but a couple of Ferris state students stand by mailer. Lisa:They just have to keep at it 'til the temperature changes. You know, he's really surprised. I want my name to be associated with my work. It's been debunked a million times but we're still living with the legacies of these ideas. Quote, "On two points, I put The Thunderbolt ahead of much of the American press. Jensen's vague ideas about intelligence being inherited were explicitly connected to the growing neo Nazi movement. Hope it will be revived. Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. I never wasted a trip. Associate Producer: Padmini Ragunath I mean, I was never anybody really. Barry Mehler on Donohue:I gave a press conference and he came to hear me and I gave a paper and afterwards we sat down for a cup of coffee together and he said, Barry, you made some excellent points, but this Neo Nazi business, I mean, I know these people, you talking about stand up guys. And I said, Phil, you're in a stand up. Can you give us TLDR synopsis of it? Lisa:There's no resolution. He's an academic like Rushton, but less prestigious. The group behind it bombed a synagogue in 1958, just to give you a sense of who they were. Eventually, the popularity of this approach proved to be his downfall, Read all. His hugely popular show aired from 1967 to 1996, and Donahue won nine Daytime Emmy Awards (197780, 198283, 198586, and 1988) as Episode 4from the Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race series. WebMain address PO Box 25972 Tamarac, FL 33320 USA Show more contact info EIN 55-0711460 NTEE code info Single Organization Support (W11) IRS filing requirement This organization is required to file an IRS Form 990-N. Communication Programs and results What we aim to solve This profile needs more info. TELEVISION ACADEMY and ACADEMY OF TELEVISION ARTS & SCIENCES are registered trademarks of ATAS. Lisa:What is this, Wheel of Fortune? This is Barry Mehler. His work inspired others like Bill Tucker to follow the money, and the thing that really stood out to me about Mehler's writing was that there was a sense of urgency. Additional musicbyBlue Dot Sessions. Rigo:Bill Tucket says that when Shockley came out as a racist in the 1960s, The Pioneer Fund must have felt like they won the lottery without even buying a ticket. Lisa:That blows right past yikes into holy crap territory. These ideas just stay in the public consciousness, they don't go away again, and all the work that he did to expose it doesn't really make it stop. Hosts: Alexis Pedrick and Elisabeth Berry Drago It was part of his insecurity, but the data for this was so stupid. How does he keep getting the chance to put these ideas forward? He was the first person to really call them out publicly. Paul: And then writes about it in an, a newspaper article that is syndicated and sent to a number of places around the country. It was much more prevalent in the earlier part of the 20th Century, but as it has become less and less popular among, uh, the academic mainstream, the few people who still adhere to it are those funded by Pioneer. Find out all the details of his life This is why Barry Mehler was so adamant that white supremacy was such a serious problem. In Silicon Valleys renegade days, a hardheaded Texan chased dreams of a flying car. Rigo: Barry Mehler's TV appearances made Roger Pearson furious. They distributed one of Hitler's propaganda films to American high schools with English subtitles. So the short story is that for Barry Mehler, all of this is personal, so when I ask him how he fell into this work, he took me back to his childhood in 1960s New York, where he was just a regular Jewish kid. He was previously married to Marge Cooney. And I really don't think that that was a winning strategy. Lisa:It's also stunning to me that when Barry Mehler investigates The Pioneer Fund in the 1980s, they're still pushing the exact same ideas, and the exact same framing as they were in 1937. They painted the swastika backwards." The Pioneer paid for it, but the Harvard Educational Review published it. Bill:He liked to be referred to as Colonel Draper, or the Colonel. Lisa:So, and this is really just personal curiosity, what about Barry Mehler? Phillipe Rushton on Donohue:This is the thing Dr. Mehler and all my opponents don't have to answer the intellectual argument.All they have to do is start throwing words around like Nazi and racist and fascist. Barry:They're the ones who are winning. on the Internet. So they could see it. Rigo:Yeah, and it claimed that Black people were a threat to civilization, and that they should be repatriated back to Africa. Los Angeles - 1985 - Janet Leigh Jamie Lee Curtis.mp4, Terms of Service (last updated 12/31/2014). If a white supremacist wanted to discredit what you have to say, they, they might say, "Barry Mehler is a unreliable narrator because look at what happened." WebThe Phil Donahue Show [remove] 9; American Association of Sex Educators, Counselors, and Therapists (AASECT) 2; Be All You Want to Be 2; International Foundation for The opposite, in fact. It's to get the message out, "You can't go through the Jews because they distort everything.". [laughs] You'd probably groan and hope you, like, you could avoid him at a faculty mixer, right? Rigo:So I asked Barry Mehler about the video. And remember, the Harvard Educational Review, they published it. Barry:They have their own printing presses, their own journals. Whites have fewer sexual partners than do blacks. I mean, I wish that some of the millions of people who watch that video would, like, learn about his work, his life's work. Barry:And Ron said to Issac, "Isaac, there are some people who might want to harm your father. VHS Collectors There's like, an intellectual continuity, so that theory Mehler had as a 13 year old boy, that the Nazis didn't just suddenly disappear, he was right. In a 14 minute video mailers heard using profane language directed at both his students. 5 (May, 1992) Improving Our Image Powerpoint Our Sorority Issue 15 (April 1987) Phyllis Frye and Phil Donahue TV Guise Vol. The Price is Right? He was an avowed racist, and pretty public about it. Lisa:Oh my God, I'm afraid to ask, Rigo, but you're gonna tell me. If I was on a national public radio program, that's fine. Jensen on Donahue:The, the white population of the United States score is higher on all kinds of mental tests, not just IQ tests, but every kind of mental test. Nobody wants to know that stuff, and nobody is really offended by it. It gets stranger. I'm sure the teenagers loved it. Rigo:Yeah. Suddenly I'm in the suburbs of New York, and I'm walking down, uh, a street and a car drives by, and there's, uh, a, a father and his son, and the son screams out the window at me, you know, something like, "You dirty [expletive]." Rigo:And Laughlin was on that wave length. I'm curious about how you would respond to that. It's kind of a misunderstanding, or a misuse of Darwin's theory of evolution, and it's actually interesting that it's Darwin's cousin, his half cousin, Sir Francis Galton, who really advocates for this idea of genetic determinism. This guy is so off his rocker. Using stories from sciences past to understand our world. And I couldn't give a flying any longer and to the administration and no limit of an administrator is going to tell me how to teach my classes because I'm a tenured professor. Lisa:Let me guess the angle here. Roger Pearson, for example, had at least a dozen names that he used, and Barry Mehler and his mentor, Jerry Hirsch, help uncover the deception. Bill:There is this long tradition of academic racism which Pioneer has continued. He was inspired by Hans F. K. Gnther, the Third Reich's most prominent race scientist. It was clear that the anti Semitism was everywhere about me. Lisa:So they really do move underground. He was a legend in Silicon Valley. MOO32 Rigo:So just to give you an update on what Mehler's been up to recently, I asked him about some hot water he got into, and I'll play you some tape. These things meant a lot to him, and he has a huge inheritance burning a hole in his pocket, so he's looking around for a great social cause to pour his money into, so he becomes drawn to what else but eugenics. And apparently Draper was also kind of shy. Our agenda to port bill Blakemore has been looking into a fairly obscure research fund that has drawn attention because of this book, the bell curve, a fund. I think it's important to acknowledge that what they're gonna say is intellectually dishonest, and therefor it doesn't provide a better understanding of them or their ideas. McNeil/Leher Report:Race remains one of this country's most divisive topics and a controversial book with racially charged findings hasn't helped the debate. Published through Distillations, the Science History Institutes highly acclaimed digital content platform, the project examines the scientific origins of support for racist theories, practices, and policies. They wanted to sue me for libel, and throughout my career, I have been at risk of being sued for libel because, you know, you, you call people Nazis, and, you know, they get upset, and no one has ever been happy that I exposed their racist and right wing connections. Barry:I've had a sense of urgency that goes back a very, very long time. His claim to fame was being an expert witness in Buck v. Bell, where the Supreme Court ruled in favor of allowing states to force sterilizations on people with intellectual disabilities. Talk about context and urgency, that is what people understood, and that's why they were so upset at what I was doing. Recently, you were, uh Ferris State University suspended you for publishing a profanity based video. He has been married to Marlo Thomas since May 21, 1980. It's almost like, uh Like a racist Santa Claus. Play all I mean, he's, he's this well spoken fellow in a nice suit. The Science History Institute is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization registered in the U.S. under EIN: 22-2817365. Lisa:So on one hand, you have a very bored, uh, very racist wealthy boy, and on the other, you have a rising American Nazi. They would boo, they would hiss, they would clap for me, and then boo for him. The department is located in UNT's Willis Library in the fourth floor Reading Room. I mean, it sort of falls under the category of yikes. Rigo:Yeah, and he got cover stories in the New York Times magazine, Newsweek, and The New Republic. on January 8, 2023. Rigo:Okay, here's one. 7 No. The ideology, the quote, unquote, "scientific support for racial hierarchy," This stuff is getting mainstreamed in the 1990s, isn't it? Let's switch gears and talk about the bearded guy on the right, who has amazing muttonchops. I mean, I was never anybody really important. Lisa:Oh, great. Archive of Erbkrant: You find it a specially high percentage of mentally air among the Jewish population. Bill:The Mankind Quarterly is a very interesting publication. Rigo:In 1961, he co founded a journal called the Mankind Quarterly, and guess who's funding the journal? Decades later, it still sounds the same. What was striking was the more extreme you were, the more successful you seemed to be in this whole world, and what I found interesting was that you could have, uh, a very mainstream sort of academic career, and then you could be on the editorial board of Roger Pearson's Mankind Quarterly, and nobody would notice that. Well, the idea of eugenics is basically a belief that the human race could or should be quote, unquote, "improved" by selective breeding. Phil Donahue, who may be television's most prominent advocate of that school, taped five episodes of ''Donahue,'' his syndicated talk show, in the Soviet Union last month. 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